John O’Leary – Live Inspired – SIV #067 Shownotes

It's a matter of perspective...

John O’Leary might be my favorite guest to ever appear on the Success Is Voluntary Podcast. No offense to the previous 66 guests.

I have been to somewhere between 50 and 75 large, national sales/leadership conferences in my career. Invariably the organizers bring in a keynote speaker to inspire the audience. Some of them crush it and others have been ok, but for some reason miss the mark for me personally. 

In January of 2017, I heard today’s guest John O’Leary speak. I have never heard a speaker that I have taken away as much hope and excitement for life as I did that day. During his talk I literally lost it 2 times and walked away incredibly inspired. His message is still impacting my life.

When John O’Leary was 9 years old, he suffered burns over 100% of his body and was expected to die. He is now an inspirational speaker and author, teaching more than 50,000 people around the world each year how to live inspired

Not only has his book On Fire: The 7 Choices to Ignite a Radically Inspired Life become a national best seller, his podcast Live Inspired is in the top 20 podcasts on iTunes.

His message of hope and the ability for everyone, including you and me, to be overcomers was something I desperately needed at the time. I hope this podcast blesses you and impacts you in ways you are still remembering years from now.

I’d encourage you to listen to the entire podcast as John and I are doing something really cool for the first 5 people that email me.

If this podcast doesn’t inspire you, I give up. I say it every week, SERIOUSLY get out your pen and note pad. OK, enough build up! Please let me introduce you to my new friend John O’Leary.

Things John And I Talked About

  • John’s message is not about John. It’s about the people who showed up in his life.
  • Everyone has a story. Just not the one we tell the world.
  • John didn’t tell his story for 28 years.
  • We must embrace the past and learn from it.
  • At age 9, he was burned on 100% of his body and 83% were 3rd-degree burns.
  • Your whole world can literally change in the blink of an eye.
  • Read Jack Buck and the Kid.
  • The importance of “ordinary” people in your life.
  • Nurse Roy “Boy! Listen to me. You are going to walk again so you might as well get used to it.”
  • You are part of something important. Act like it!
  • You oftentimes have no idea of the impact you are making in someone’s life
  • How you ask the following questions makes all the difference in your life.
    • Why me?
    • Who cares?
    • What more can I do?
    • If your business plan works, will you have the life you actually want?
    • Make sure your ladder is against the right wall.
    • If your eyes are open for greatness, it’s EVERYWHERE!
    • There is a 1 in 400-trillion chance that you even exist.
    • I choose to thrive because: God demands it, my family deserves it, and the world is starved for it.
    • History has always pointed upward and to the right.
    • Seek justice, love mercy, walk humbly with God.
    • The best of your life points back to the worst of my life.
    • The best things are still ahead.
    • Ask the 3 questions above, every day as part of your morning ritual.

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The John and i Talked About

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Where To Connect With Andy

John’s Website/Podcast: http://johnolearyinspires.com/

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Facebook: JohnOLearyRisingAbove

Instagram: @JohnO’Leary.Inspires

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NEXT WEEK

Join me next week when we have podcast sensation, and business thought leader, John Lee Dumas on the SIV podcast.!

Until then, I wish you great SUCCESS! I’ve heard it’s VOLUNTARY…

Gerry Sandusky – Engage, Amaze and Influence – SIV #066 Shownotes

Your audience is rooting for you!

I was introduced to today’s guest, Gerry Sandusky by my good friend Eric Silverman. And just to be clear from the very beginning, this is not the same Jerry Sandusky that was convicted of child molestation while a football coach a Penn State. Ok. We got that out of the way.

This Gerry is the play-by-play announcer of the Baltimore Ravens. How cool is that!?!? But that’s not why I asked him to come on.

You can imagine, his climb up the broadcasting ladder was arduous. Along the way, he had the opportunity to meet a vast amount of very influential people. He noticed some of these people were horrible communicators once they got to the front of the room to speak. Gerry decided to do something about it and he started a coaching company to teach people how to give presentations that Engage, Amaze and Influence their audience.

In our industry, I can’t imagine a better outcome whenever you make a presentation, whether you are trying to convince a Decision Maker to let you see their employees, or sharing the value of your coverage with those employees.

I loved talking with Gerry! I felt like I attended a master’s class for free!

Things Gerry And I Talked About

  • Your audience wants to be engaged, amazed, and influenced
  • How he became the play-by-play voice of the NFL’s Baltimore Ravens
  • Sports is the ultimate merit-based rewards system. Sales is a close second.
  • You are drawn to that level of competition or repelled by it.
  • Why he worked for 1.5 years for free at a Miami TV station.
  • Sales is a distance sport. It isn’t a sprint.
  • Smart people want to impress their audience. This doesn’t work.
  • The audience is in your corner.
  • You must be willing to have the pluck to suck.
  • The easier someone makes something look, the harder they’ve worked.
  • The higher up someone goes in the organization, the less likely is anyone to tell them they aren’t good at something.
  • Coaches need to lift people up. Not beat them up.
  • Skillset + confidence = Magic!
  • Three biggest mistakes people make when giving a presentation.
    • Read PowerPoint slides
    • Too much information in their presentation. If you info dump you lose control of what the audience takes away from your presentation.
    • Too married to their agenda – lose connection.

"Don't pay too much attention to the path everyone else has created. Just pay attention to the goal you're trying to reach. Feel free to cut your own path through the woods. Because sometimes the path you cut is a path other people would tell you ahead of time you can't possibly get through that way. And by not knowing that, you do get there that way." - Gerry Sandusky.

The Books gerry and i Talked About

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NEXT WEEK

Join me again next week when I talk to maybe the most inspiring person I have ever met. I promise you will be forever changed.

Until then, I wish you great SUCCESS! I’ve heard it’s VOLUNTARY…

Dov Gordon – Elegant Sales Conversations – SIV #064 Shownotes

Go to their corner...

I was introduced to today’s guest, Dov Gordon by Bob Burg. Bob appeared on the SIV podcast a couple of weeks back and I am thrilled to get Dov on so soon. Bob had him on his podcast and I found their conversation to be fascinating and couldn’t wait to get to dive in deeper into what Dov calls Leading Elegant Sales Conversations. Dov’s approach has nothing to do with scripts, tricks or hacks. I found it fascinating and I think you will too!

Things Dov And I Talked About

  • Leading elegant sales conversations.

  • How to package your expertise in a way people want to buy.

  • The two paths we can take.
    • Becoming a charismatic guru.
    • Path of mastery.
      • People don’t complete a path of mastery because:
        • They don’t know it exists.
        • They never start down the path.
        • That start down the path but stop when they hit an obstacle.

  • Working from a mindset of fear vs. creating.

  • We say we are aware of our comfort zones but rarely do we actually do anything about it.

  • We need to ask ourselves three questions about success:
    • What do I really want?
    • Why do I really want it?
    • What’s the next step I need to take to get me there?

  • The three doubts that creep in:
    • Am I doing the right thing?
    • Am I doing it right?
    • Why isn’t it working for me?

  • It’s not that you don’t know enough. It’s that you don’t deeply understand that which you already know.

  • The three steps to mastery:
    • Using a mentor/coach, identify what the 10% of the information that is critical to your success.  
    • Apply the 10% you have learned. (Some of your results will be good. Some will be bad.)  
    • Go back to the mentor and have them point you to changes you need to make.

  • The illusion that there is something other people have that I don’t have (characteristics, information, etc.) that makes them successful.

  • Don’t compare your rehearsal with someone else’s stage performance.

  • It’s not you the person. It’s your process.

  • Three questions every prospect asks:
    • Do you understand me?
    • What do you recommend?
    • Is your recommendation an offer I can’t refuse?

  • Sales is not about getting people to buy what you want them to buy. Sales is about leading people from where they are now to a better place.

  • Nobody wants to be led by someone that doesn’t understand them.

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Your free copy of "The Plenty Of Clients Manual - How To Systematically And Consistently Attract First-Rate Clients."  
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The dov and i Talked About

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Where To Connect With Andy

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NEXT WEEK

Join me next week when Gerry Sandusky, the voice of the Baltimore Ravens, stops by to discuss communication skills.

Until then, I wish you great SUCCESS! I’ve heard it’s VOLUNTARY…

Randy Gage – Are You Really Ready For Prosperity? – SIV #063 Shownotes

Get rid of your "mind viruses"

I was first introduced to Randy Gage through his book, Why You Are Dumb, Sick and Broke… And How to Get Smart, Healthy and Rich! I ran across it in an airport bookstore early in 2008 and bought it immediately. Ehhhh… For a friend.. yes a friend… That it!Just for a friend… The truth is, whereas I didn’t consider myself to be any of those things, I certainly needed help in all three areas.

Randy’s story is incredibly uplifting. He went from being a teenage drug addict and alcoholic with an armed robbery conviction to the pinnacle of success. Randy is the author of eleven books translated into 25 languages, including the New York Times bestsellers, Risky Is the New Safe and Mad Genius. He has spoken to more than 2 million people across more than 50 countries and is a member of the Speakers Hall of Fame. Holy cow! He travels internationally to speak and train on why mindset is the more important than skill or experience to have unlimited success. 

Randy and I talked about his study surrounding prosperity and why we have “mind viruses” and how the subconscious will self-sabotage our success. This is a topic I have studied also because I have watched many salespeople over the years struggle with having success. In fact, I believe we lose as many salespeople to early success as we do to early failure. Maybe you don’t think you have challenges in this area, but I would challenge you to listen to Randy today and then set aside some time for self-reflection.

But instead of listening to my observations, let’s talk to Randy. But before we do that, pause this podcast, open your mind and go get something to take notes with, even if it’s a blue crayon on a brown paper bag. Your health and financial future may just depend on it. 

Things Randy And I Talked About

    • He conside
    • He considers himself to be a philosopher.
    • If the great philosophers of old were alive today, they would have a podcast and Youtube channel.
    • Adversity leads to break through.
    • Mindset and self-discipline are much more important than tactics.
    • He believes teaching prosperity is the reason he was put on this planet.
    • We all have core foundational beliefs in our subconscious mind.
    • We are programmed with mind viruses. The most prevalent are:
      • Money is bad.

      • It’s spiritual or noble to be poor.

      • To become wealthy you have to become a bad parent.

      • To become wealthy you must sell your soul.

      • To be a successful company you have to rape, pillage and plunder the environment.

      Rich people are evil.

      • To be a successful company you have to exploit the little people.

    • Many of these mind viruses are perpetrated by organized religion, the government and what Randy calls the “Datasphere.”
    • The important things we have core foundational beliefs are:
      • God

      • Religion

      • Money

      • Sex

      • Health

      • Relationships

      • Marriage
    • We develop our core beliefs before we are 10.
    • We self-sabotage ourselves when our goals are in conflict with our internal programming.
    • Do your beliefs empower and serve you or do they limit you? Here is how Randy suggests you find out and what to do about it:
      • Stop and take a walk along a river and ask yourself what are my core foundational beliefs around God, religion, money, sex, health, relationships, and marriage?

      • Blow up those beliefs that no longer serve you and they will lose their power over you. Treat them like a jacket that you can take off the old one, drop it on the floor and then put on one that fits better.

      • Nurture your mind, body, and soul with positive programming.
    • Voice apps and AI such as Amazon’s Alexa are already changing EVERYTHING and it’s only going to accelerate.
    • You must bring incredible, unique value to compete against AI.
    • In the next 24 months, whole industries will be forever eviscerated by technology.
    • Why you can send him a message through WhatsApp… Just don’t call him!
    • Social media is the new town square.

The books randy and i Talked About

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Where To Connect With rAndy

NEXT WEEK

Join me next week when we have business development specialist Dov Gordon on the SIV podcast.!

Until then, I wish you great SUCCESS! I’ve heard it’s VOLUNTARY…

Larry Winget – The Pitbull of Personal Development – SIV #062 Shownotes

Whatever you do, don’t call him a motivational speaker. According to Larry, he is the world’s only irritational speaker.

I almost guarantee you that over the next 40 minutes, Larry is going to say something that will offend you. And you know what? He doesn’t care. To prove this point, all you have to do is take a look at the titles of his books.

There is no way you will agree with everything Larry says today. If you did, he would feel like he failed. But if you keep an open mind, I promise you will learn some things that will help you in life and in your business. If nothing else, maybe we can learn how to disagree without being disrespectful.

Things Larry And I Talked About

  • You can’t make somebody who’s a bad guy do good things.
  • Respect is missing!
  • It’s a shame that no one in the middle can get elected.
  • Minimum wage is for people providing minimum value.
  • Wage inequity between a CEO and his frontline employees is absolutely fair.
  • “I knew what the salary was when I took the job.” – Larry’s son who is a police officer.
  • To take a job that you knew what the salary was when you took it, and then complain about how much you are paid, doesn’t show integrity.
  • Most people should just keep their job.
  • Most people have no business going into business for themselves. That’s why the business failure rate is so high.
  • Stupid people decide to open businesses all the time.
  • The world needs great employees.
  • Welcome to The Butthurt States of America.
  • Butthurt definition: To be overly offended.
  • The world doesn’t want to change or it already would have.
  • The wussification of America.
  • Why he can’t stand motivational speakers.
  • He is an Irritational Speaker – Makes you so irritated you’ll do anything to change.
  • We don’t move toward pleasure. We move away from pain.
  • Never whine about what you went through.
  • Why “Never give up!” might be the dumbest advice ever.
  • A lot of “thought leaders” have never had an original thought in their life.
  • Your core values determine every action you take.
  • Why most people haven’t defined their core values.

The Books larry and i talked About

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Where To Connect With larry

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Can you please forward this podcast to everyone you know? As you saw, it is not sales related. You will make people think! Who knows, you might even help them get 1% better this week!!!

Until then, I wish you great SUCCESS! I’ve heard it’s VOLUNTARY…

John Ruhlin – Giftology – SIV #061 Shownotes

What is "strategic gifting?" How do I do it?

As you may know, I read about a book a week and many of them are in the sales or sales leadership arena. Often these authors take ideas from previous books and authors, aggregate them and put their own spin on them. There is nothing wrong with that and they are definitely worth reading.

Giftology, on the other hand, was completely different. I have been leading sales teams for almost 22 years and I have never even thought about some of the ideas that John lays out in his book.

I knew immediately I had to get him on the Success Is Voluntary podcast to teach us about strategic gifting and making radical generosity a key competitive advantage.

Don’t worry if those two concepts are foreign to you. They were to me too. I’ll let John explain in just a minute. Just know this, I have listened to this podcast 3 times already as I was getting it ready to publish and I’m still learning things each time.

Things John And I Talked About

  • Gifting as a competitive advantage. 
  • Radical generosity/giftology 
  • If you take care of the family in business, everything else takes care of itself. 
  • Gifting as a repeatable system instead of being haphazard.
  • If you are liked, trusted, and top of mind, you will beat out people that might be better than you.
  • Most people ask, “What’s the least I can do?” Instead, focus on what’s the most you can do?
  • Why food/wine is the absolute worst gift you can give.
  • Why gift cards are just as bad.
  • How many impressions are you making with your gifts?
  • What the difference is between a gift and a promotional item and why John never sends promotional items.
  • Don’t deface something by putting your logo on it.
  • Don’t gift on the ABCs (Anniversaries, Birthdays, Christmas)
  • Never gift for a referral or when a deal closes.
  • The two reasons to gift:
  • Thanking someone for their time.
  • Just because.
  • Why you should never send gifts in November or December.
  • The importance of gifting in a series.
  • How to surprise and delight.
  • How to set a budget for gifting. (5-15% of profits from that client.)
  • Sending gifts to the Decision Maker’s inner circle and why that is often more effective than sending it to the Decision Maker themselves.
  • Why a $600 coffee mug makes sense.
  • The art of creating artifacts.
  • How to gift a prospect. (But first take care of your warm market, centers of influence and current clients.)

The Books John and i Talked About

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Giftology – John Ruhlin

Give and TakeAdam Grant

The BibleGod

Raving FansKen Blanchard

The 21 Laws Irrefutable Laws Of LeadershipDr. John C. Maxwell

Where To Connect With John

Your turn

What gift have you received that surprised and delighted you? Leave a comment below or shoot me an email: Tim@SuccessIsVoluntary.com.

Until then, I wish you great SUCCESS! I’ve heard it’s VOLUNTARY…

Bob Burg – The Go-Giver Influencer – SIV #060 Shownotes

Bob Burg's book Endless Referrals changed by career.

As important and as timeless as Endless Referrals has been, Bob teamed up with John David Mann to create a wildly successful series of bestselling business parables.

In The Go-Giver and then their follow-up, The Go-Giver Leader, Bob and John challenged the conventional wisdom about success. Now they’re back with a new and equally compelling story about the power of genuine influence, in business and beyond.

THE GO-GIVER INFLUENCER: A Little Story about a Most Persuasive Idea tackles the paradox of achieving what you want by focusing on the other person’s interests. No, not in a way that is self-sacrificial but rather in such a way that all parties benefit greatly. This results in both immediate and long-term success.

Bob Burg speaks all over the world on topics related to The Go-Giver, as well as what he calls, Genuine Influence.

The original book The Go-Giver has sold over 800,00 copies and has spurred an international movement. All books combined, Bob has sold well over a million copies. Holy cow!

Things bob And I Talked About

  • Shifting our focus from getting to giving.
  • Providing value to others is the most profitable strategy.
  • The only way to make a lot of money is to provide a lot of value to a lot of people.
  • Influence is the ability to move a person, or persons, to a desired action.
  • Push vs. Pull (How far can you push a rope?)
  • Influence is the difference between some success and enormous levels of success.
  • Influencers attract people first to themselves and then their ideas.
  • Ultimately, people do things for their reasons, not our reasons.
  • Nobody buys from you because you have a quota to meet or because you are nice and believe in your product. They buy from you because they believe they will be better off by doing so than not doing so.
  • Money is simply the echo of value.
  • We have gone from, “I’m right. You’re wrong.” To “I’m right. You’re evil.”
  • Master your emotions.
  • Who is mighty? Those who can master their emotions.
  • You can take your emotions along for the ride. Just don’t let them drive. Put them in the passenger seat with the seatbelt tightly fastened.
  • Rationalize = Rational Lies
  • Compromise is a lose/lose proposition.
  • Collaboration is a win/win strategy.

The 5 Secrets Of Influence

  • Step into the other person’s shoes.
    • We can’t step into their mind.
    • We tend to believe everyone sees the world as we do.
  • Don’t just listen with our ears. Listen from the back of your neck.
  • Set the frame.
    • The frame is the foundation of every interaction.
  • You can reset the frame as necessary.
  • Communicate with tact and empathy.
    • Tact is the language of strength.
  • Empathy is understanding that the person is feeling something that might be stressful to them.
  • Letting go of having to be right.
    • My mind is made up. Don’t confuse me with the facts.
  • Confirmation bias.
  • Tact and kindness should never be confused with compromise.
  • Shifting our focus from getting to giving.

The Books Bob and i Talked About

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The Secret Of Selling Anything – Harry Browne

Thinking In Bets – Annie Duke

Endless Referrals – Bob Burg

The Go-Giver Influencer – Bob Burg and John David Mann

The Go-Giver – Bob Burg and John David Mann

How To Win Friends And Influence People – Dale Carnegie

As A Man Thinketh – James Allen

Think And Grow Rich – Napoleon Hill

Psycho-Cybernetics – Maxwell Maltz. MD, FICS

The Magic Of Thinking Big – David J Schwartz, PH.D.

Where To Connect With Bob

Your turn

How do you define influence? Leave a comment below.

Until then, I wish you great SUCCESS! I’ve heard it’s VOLUNTARY…

Patrick Galvin – The Connector’s Way – SIV #059 Shownotes

"People need to tell their own story." - Patric Galvin

I love talking to smart, dynamic people. Especially people that I can learn from. Today’s guest is certainly that! When former podcast guest, Andrea Waltz recommended Patrick to me I had never heard of him. Once he and I talked, I felt like I had known him forever. He is the living embodiment of his message.

Patrick has built his business around teaching people how to build better relationships with both clients and prospects. He is so passionate about it that he literally wrote the book on how to have deeper connections! When I read The Connector’s Way, I was blown away!  It is a parable about a struggling business owner who discovers simple yet effective ways to cultivate relationships in the real world and online and uses them to fuel his success.

If you don’t learn something today, that’s on you. If you don’t take notes, I’m going to assume you ran out of paper. Otherwise get out something to write on. I don’t care if it’s a blue crayon on a brown paper bag. I promise you’ll thank me later.

Things patrick And I Talked About

  • The organizations that thrive are great at building relationships.
  • People try to use social media and lose touch with what brought them to the dance.
  • Many company’s strategy regarding advertising – Spray and pray.
  • Adversity is the only way to be successful.
  • People buy and refer business to people they know, like and trust.
  • Networking is an ego driven and based upon numbers.
  • Connecting is about developing deep relationships over time.
  • Most people can count on one hand the number of relationships that helped them become successful.
  • Serve other without consideration on how you are going to benefit.
    • Recommend your close connections on LinkedIn.
    • In the geography, invite two people that could benefit from meeting each other and take them to lunch.
  • What is it I can do that my competitors aren’t doing so that people will talk favorably about me?
  • Les Schwab – How they exceed expectations consistently.
  • To stand out on the web avoid “marketing speak” and allow customers to endorse you. Pull out your iPhone and have them give you a video endorsement no longer than 2 minutes.
  • “I’ve learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel.” – Mya Angelou
  • Deeper connection creates loyalty.
  • Let people know how they can help you be succeesful.
  • Ask people how you can help them be successful.
    • What are your working on?
    • How can I help?

The Books patrick and i Talked About

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Where To Connect With patrick

Your turn

What has an individual or company done for you that created a deeper connection and/or greater loyalty? Shoot me an email (tim@successisvoluntary.com) or leave a comment below..

Until then, I wish you great SUCCESS! I’ve heard it’s VOLUNTARY…

Mark Brown – World Champion of Public Speaking – SIV #058 Shownotes

Today’s guest is the world champion of public speaking. Did you even know that was a thing?

Originally from Kingston, Jamaica, Mark Brown migrated to the United States at 18 years old with only $40 in his pocket and a dream for a better life. Today, he has become one of the most popular inspirational speakers in the world.

In 1995, Mark defeated more than 20,000 contestants from 14 countries to win the illustrious Toastmasters World Championship of Public Speaking. Since then, he has delivered more than 3,500 presentations, to more than 1.7 million people on 5 continents.

I’m guessing that if giving presentations is an important part of your job, and I know it is, then who better to learn from than the world champ?

So get out your blue crayon, or whatever you use to take notes, and let’s learn together!

Things Mark And I Talked About

  • His journey to America at age 18 with $40 in his pocket.
  • “My life is a testament to what America has to offer.”
  • Whenever we see an opportunity we must take the first step even if it’s scary at first.
  • You must connect with your audience:
    • Your audience is you.
    • Share your life story, your experiences, your mistakes, your struggles, and your successes.
    • The common connects.
  • You can be successful at work but what is going on at home?
  • Excellence in Leadership – Practical Leadership:
    • What are you like day-to-day, hands-on with the people?
    • Adaptability to build and form teams quickly.
    • Braveheart vs. Glory
    • Lead from the front!
    • Give people the chance to fail.
    • Getting discretionary effort.
    • You must lead yourself first.
    • Lead your own leader.
    • You must see people as people, not as positions that are filled.
    • Building relationships and leading with love.
    • What does ASAP even mean?
    • How we communicate and how well we communicate are both critical.
  • It is our job to develop new leaders:
    • Must push, prod an poke people to become uncomfortable.
    • Letting people know that they have untapped potential.
    • Seeing more in people than they see in themselves.
    • Show them how leading benefits them and their family/community.
    • Everything is difficult until it becomes easy. It becomes easy with time and experience.
    • The lessons of Rocky 3. – Apollo Creed taught Rocky ALMOST EVERYTHING he knew. ALMOST.
    • Don’t stifle new leaders growth.
  • How to boost morale:
    • Appreciate people based upon their love language.
    • Don’t show people appreciation based upon how you like to be shown appreciation. Focus on how THEY want to be appreciated.
  • Don’t chase the shiny object.
    • We often try to learn from our mistakes but often fail to look at what worked well and try to repeat it.
    • Layer new ideas onto the old ideas instead of starting from scratch.
    • Why the world-class flutist James Galway stopped recording and giving concerts at age 50 and what he did instead.
    • It worked so good we stopped doing it.
    • The basic design of paperclips hasn’t changed since 1867. Where’s your paperclip?

The Books Mark and i Talked About

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Your turn

How do you like to be shown appreciation? Let us know by leaving a comment below!

Until then, I wish you great SUCCESS! I’ve heard it’s VOLUNTARY…

Eric Silverman – Voluntary Disruption – SIV #057 Shownotes

"Don't call it Voluntary Benefits!" - Eric Silverman

I’ve known today’s guest Eric Silverman for a long time now. We have never worked in the same hierarchy. In fact, we worked on opposite sides of the country. Instead of working together, I got to know Eric through appearing on numerous panels together, and winning company-sponsored trips and attending conferences. The more I have gotten to know Eric the more I respect him.

Eric was named the 2017 Adviser Of The Year by Employee Benefit Adviser.

He is a huge supporter of the Success Is Voluntary website and podcast! I am thankful that he has used his vast connections to introduce me to several of our recent podcast guests!

If you are in the Voluntary Benefits space, and you participate in social media AT ALL, you have seen at least one article or post from Eric.

We certainly don’t see eye-to-eye on everything in the Voluntary Benefits … I mean Enhanced Benefits industry. However, I have always admired him, his positions and beliefs. He is constantly trying to disrupt the status quo. I never want to close off my thinking by digging into my position without understanding the other side of the argument. Eric has opened my eyes to many things and I thank him for that.

As you listen to today’s podcast, my guess is that there will be somethings Eric talks about that might not sit quite right with you… And that’s great! Eric would love to start a conversation with you and listen to your point of view.

Buckle your seatbelts ladies and gentlemen, it’s going to be a bumpy ride!

Things Eric And I Talked About

  • He started as a college intern at age 19.
  • Despite his success, his dad still asked him what he was going to do for a living when he graduated.
  • Eric is trying to single-handedly change the name of the entire industry.
  • He doesn’t like “Voluntary Benefits”
  • He doesn’t like “Worksite Benefits.”
  • He HATES “Ancillary.”
  • All these imply that what we do isn’t important, it is secondary at best.
  • Word choice is critical. Words have great power. ⁃
  • Eric reminded us that everything we do is voluntary… (Who knew?)
  • Enhanced benefits support health insurance.
  • The need to create a strategy with specific programs that truly enhance the current benefits.
  • This helps avoid a product dump to get to a commission grab.
  • This limits overbuying and overselling.
  • This limits double coverage.
  • This protects both employee and employer from wasting premium dollars.
  • Won’t usually sell “off the shelf” products.
  • How does he disrupt an industry that has been around for 100+ years?
  • He does the opposite of everything he did before.
  • He has no sales team.
  • He refuses to compete against his broker partners.
  • He will not take a case that doesn’t have a broker attached to it.
  • He shares his bonuses with his broker partners.
  • He refuses to know where he stands with any carrier on getting to the next bonus (he doesn’t want it to sway his decision.)
  • He remains carrier agnostic.
  • Brokers are fed up with:
    • Multiple carrier reps from the same company calling on them muddying the waters.
    • Agents that are interested in a product dump to get to a commission grab.

Where To Connect With eric

your turn

Did you learn anything? Did you get mad? Maybe you start nodding your head and saying to yourself “That’s right Eric!” Did you do a little bit of both? Let’s start the conversation. Just leave a comment below and I will make sure that Eric has a chance to respond..

Until then, I wish you great SUCCESS! I’ve heard it’s VOLUNTARY…

Brett Davenport – Recruiting and Building Sales Teams – SIV #056 Shownotes

Just call him "coach."

I was introduced to Brett Davenport by my friend, and past podcast guest, Gary Hoy. Brett has had a very successful career in the financial services arena through recruiting and building teams.

Even though we come from very different ends of the financial services spectrum, our philosophies around recruiting and training are incredibly similar.

I asked Brett on the podcast to talk about how people from a variety of different backgrounds and skill levels can thrive in our industry. We explore the realities of not being able to pick winners, but how to look for those characteristics that winners possess.

As important as recruiting is, if we don’t onboard and train our recruits properly, there will always be

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Andrea Waltz – Go For No – SIV #055 Shownotes

Yes is the destination. No is how you get there.

Since Go For No came out, it may be the book that has influenced my new recruits the most. I have bought hundreds of copies and given it to every new agent that has joined my team.

Andrea Waltz is the co-author of this sales masterpiece. When I had Jeb Blount on the Success Is Voluntary Podcast a few weeks ago, he offered to put me in touch with her. I couldn’t have been more excited when Andrea agreed to stop by and hang out with us.

Andrea and her co-author, business partner and husband Richard Fenton travel internationally speaking and training sales teams. I believe that the critical mindset of going for no is absolutely foundational and something that every salesperson must understand and get comfortable with. As Andrea and Richard point out in the book, and in this podcast, the people that win the top sales awards at most companies, are also the people that get told no the most. I’m pretty sure there is a direct correlation!

Things Andrea And I Talked About

  • She started her sales career in retail: Lenscrafters
  • She and Richard started a sales training company that facilitated 8-hour presentations. Only 1/2 hour was on the Go For No mindset.
  • The discipline necessary to fill your pipeline
  • The disappointment of losing deals, especially when your pipeline is empty
  • If you are operating in fear you put pressure on prospects/clients
  • The fallacy that today isn’t going to kill my business/career
  • The need to change your mindset as it relates to rejection
  • The old model of success says that failure is to be avoided at all costs
  • The new model of success says that you must go through failure on the way to success
  • The 5 Levels of Failure
  • The ability to fail
  • The willingness to fail
  • The wantingness to fail
  • Failing bigger and faster
  • Failing exponential
  • Set a goal for the number of no’s you are going to hear
  • Don’t allow quotas to govern your activity
  • We don’t manage to minimums
  • The need to have a goal for no’s in all of your KPIs
  • The script isn’t as important as the ability to put yourself in a position to hear no
  • Disqualifying people quickly
  • No, not now vs. No, not ever
  • No is better than maybe
  • Prospects have a hard time saying no. Make it easy for them… WHAT?!?!
  • If you are going to fail, fail big!
  • Don’t talk yourself out of going after a client because of self-limiting beliefs
  • “Never make assumptions about what people are going to buy, do, or spend.” – Andrea Waltz (Tweet That)
  • Sometimes as salespeople, we get too good.  HUH?
  • Living bigger by not fearing failure

The Books andrea and i Talked About

As always: Click on the links below to learn more or purchase through Amazon.

Go For No – Andrea Waltz and Richard Fenton

The Aladdin Factor – Jack Canfield and Mark Victor Hansen

The Four Agreements – Don Miguel Ruiz

Your turn

Was your initial onboarding experience memorable? Was it great, horrible, or just meh...? Let me know by leaving a comment below (or sending me a quick email) with how it went and how it impacted you!.

Until then, I wish you great SUCCESS! I’ve heard it’s VOLUNTARY…